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    Combat drones have broadcast a large portion of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Drones that crash to the ground as bombs or launch missiles are becoming more and more autonomous. Is it better to have a person pull the trigger or is it OK to let computer algorithms choose between life and death?
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Alex S +2059
Alex S

$6,000 for a nearly guaranteed hit is insanely cheap. Look up Army stats for rounds fired per enemy combatant killed, just that alone exceeds this cost and that's small arms.

Месяц назад
Batman
Batman

$6000 is a lot for my stomach.

4 дня назад
Peace Leader
Peace Leader

Future conventional wars will be no longer belongs to bulky tanks aircraft, submarines or expensive aircraft carriers.. it belongs to small drones and smart bombs either Marin smart bombs that applies to every aspects of battlefield environment.. hmmmm.. Which is good because carbon footprint from war industries is less.... 😅

6 дней назад
EmperorNO1
EmperorNO1

Still, if you have to spend thousands of rounds of ammo to get to a proper shot, than a loitering drone is cheap, fast efficient and more important much safer for the operator.

11 дней назад
Weezle
Weezle

@Izzat The invasion was illegal, your point? Am I still bootlocking? Btw, I couldn't give one shit if they drone strike kids. Atleast it isn't me

11 дней назад
Izzat
Izzat

@Weezle the fact that your whole account is dedicated to bootlick the military? Lol. I’m not saying the Taliban is good, but you definitely not defending US invasion of Afghanistan bcs of women’s right 😂

11 дней назад
George Gu +443
George Gu

to be honest, $500 to turn a dirt-cheap grenade into short-range precision bomb is frightening. DJI never would've thought to become an invisible arms dealer someday.

Месяц назад
SSAP
SSAP

Tis how humans operate. With ingenuity and some devious creativity anything, and I mean anything can become a weapon.

7 дней назад
George Gu
George Gu

@Travis H imagine this: 1 javlin vs 4000 gps + visual guided ai drones swarm, are at the same cost. this shit is scary

9 дней назад
Travis H
Travis H

when china can build 10,000,000 of them underground and take over countrys in days yes.... scary. i am surprised it not classified like poison chemical gas illegal in war....

9 дней назад
adrian15041994
adrian15041994

That's why this company has been doing this for 20 years. The cutting edge is in the military.

17 дней назад
Jack F +1
Jack F

@Executor Prime I donated my old Mavic Pro to Ukraine. Hope it done some bad.

18 дней назад
Tackles +207
Tackles

One of Russia's biggest mistakes in invading Ukraine is that it gives western weapons developers a chance to field test experimental weapons under combat conditions against what is ostensibly a near-peer foe. Essentially they gave us a laboratory environment in which to conduct experiments against actual humans. Usually testing - especially destructive testing - is costly. But now, the cost can be offset by potentially taking out real-world enemy hardware, while facing real-world countermeasures. I bet there's some pretty sick stuff brewing right now. Especially involving drone swarms and killer micro UAVs.

27 дней назад
Butterfly8783
Butterfly8783

Exactly. Selenski explicitely gave permission and invitation to all weapon-freaks, military trained fanatics, hobby-killers, mercenaries, NATO forces and of course Europa/Germany to use Ukrainian soil and ground to TEST any weapon-system, every toxin , substance or technique that is available or in experimental phase against Russians and against Ukrainian pro Russians . - without restriction, or any ethical concerns or questioning the substances - for free. Free here generally means in exchange for more weapons, and some staged events. Therefor so many Ukrainian soldiers had to be treated in Germany for autoimmune-desases that only could be explained as having developed as result on medical testing-series done onto them.

3 дня назад
Batman
Batman

I love to see nuclear bomb go boom. Imagine the fireworks.

4 дня назад
esrever gnireenigne
esrever gnireenigne

US and Russia still have some aces up their sleeves. They just don't want to reveal it to each other yet. Those are the real secret weapons. Not the nuclear ones.

5 дней назад
Hoang Vo
Hoang Vo

Defense contractors: stonks

8 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

@Christopher Cruz thats... Good. But also means you dont read the right comments about the war so far. Also, russia did get to test itself and its weapons against an enemy that gets nato intelligence, nato training and nato weapons. And managed to cause far more losses than the losses russia suffered. So really not a win for the west.

10 дней назад
UnicornGamer96
UnicornGamer96

We need these drones with more intelligent swarming AI, self healing body, superhuman reaction times and effectively communicate with other drones in unison like hornets and bees in nature. Future generations of these machines will run rings around human pilots in manned aircraft, which will be a good thing

11 дней назад
Id OFX8 +1
Id OFX8

When technological countermeasures become common these types of ammunition will be required to have a closed system, that is not reliant on orbital satellites relaying them gps layouts. Instead they will likely utilize a complex algorithm that takes an initial relayed mapping of the terrain and then utilizes realtime analysis to compare the terrain to the initial layout and adjusts flight patterns accordingly based on how or if the terrain changes. Likely going to mean the removal of most friendly forces when in use just to be safe, but IFF/rapidly changing frequency signals will likely be implemented to help the ai both differentiate between friend and foe, as well as help act as a means to limit friendly fire when engagements are within close enough ranges.

11 дней назад
A +61
A

Havacılık endüstrisinde kendi şirketlerimizi görmek gurur verici. Jet motoru, iff, aesa gibi sistemlerde de piyasanın sözü geçen ülkelerinden birisi olmamız dileğiyle...

Месяц назад
Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

@Hamed knows best lol Israel has nothing to do with our UAV programs. Ukraine contributes to Akıncı not TB2

9 дней назад
Hamed knows best
Hamed knows best

@kut dem  what i said was derived from publicly available data, given the context, Tb2 being completely indigenous is a joke. It was made by Turkey+Ukraine+Israel+ many other Nato allies... I'm not saying its not a capable weapon. It has proven itself rightfully so, but making it "a Turkish weapon flagship" was a geopolitical and political play.

13 дней назад
kut dem
kut dem

@Hamed knows best how are you sure about this info. You dont know anything about the defence industry believe me, I am working in the industry, you can fool others but not me.

13 дней назад
Hamed knows best
Hamed knows best

türkiye tek başına tb2 için tek bir pervane yapamıyor, her şeyi dışarıdan tedarik ediyorlar. İsrail, Nato ve diğer haydutlar TB2'yi yapıyor. kanatlara türkiye bayrağı koymak sadece bir stratejidir ve Bu strateji Türk halkının çıkarına değildir. 😏

16 дней назад
kut dem +3
kut dem

aesa da zirvedeyiz, 3-4 ülke sadece f16 ya sığacak kadar küçük aesa radarı geliştirebildi, türkiye de bu ülkelerden birisi. Önce akıncılara takılacak ardından f16 larda kullanılacak, savunma sanayimiz için en gurur verici fakat çok bahsedilmeyen konulardan birisi de bu aesa radarlarımız.

Месяц назад
Duder +6
Duder

Great ending question... we are cruel to each other so much that option to trust machines has more sense as we progress forward. Is that approach safe? Of course not, but if it can prevent brutality and cruelty of human beings than the benefits of trusting machines becomes more and more obvious... once again its proven that source of all evil are still human beings and not robots or machine code.

22 дня назад
whatfreedom7 +40
whatfreedom7

I’m thinking in the future whoever can pump out drones with AI capable of doing everything on their own will control the sky as long as it’s not countered by anti air. You won’t even need to train pilots anymore so whoever can manufacture them faster will have the edge. That will allow you to have huge AI air force much faster than training pilots.

Месяц назад
Rab Smith
Rab Smith

the problem here is that drone factories will become legitemate targets in any future war, and politicians are so depraved , they will deliberately ensure that the construcion of the factories are located in the heart of civilian communities. Escalating weaponry like this can only create further new war tactics are even more widespread misery.

13 дней назад
GodMode
GodMode

@Akshay Mathur well not only numbers. Also technology. You cant win with the best/biggest manufacturing, without any inventions and or research

13 дней назад
Akshay Mathur
Akshay Mathur

This has been true for the last century as well. Whoever has the bigger and better industrial capability and logistical supply chain will win. Was true for WW1 and WW2. Is true today and will remain true tomorrow as well. The only thing that will change is what that industrial capability is churning out. Earlier it was guns, tanks, trucks, ammo, artillery, etc., tomorrow drones and anti drone systems will also be added to the list.

13 дней назад
GodMode
GodMode

@Matthew Viramontes You can counter enemy drones with your own drones. If they have loitering amounition above enemy positions, launch your own drones loitering above yourself, with sensors searching for enemy drones and kill each other. My guess is there will be drone swarms fighting in the air in the future, and only afterwards once one side has won land targetrs are attacked

18 дней назад
Rab Smith
Rab Smith

@Matthew Viramontes you could nuke the nation who sent the drones into your country

20 дней назад
Martin Ocampo +21
Martin Ocampo

It’s insane to think about the possibility of what can happen to you in the modern battlefield, it isn’t even man to man, a piece of metal can easily take out a soldier who has been training for battle for thousands of hours and in a snap, that could end.

28 дней назад
Winston Deleon
Winston Deleon

Making soldiers obsolete is probably a good thing in the big picture.

12 дней назад
Robert +455
Robert

I'd be interested to hear how friendly troops in that area feel about this. I'm not sure differentiating between good and bad soldiers is that obvious to these things. I know I'd have huge concerns.

Месяц назад
Dodo Dadabi +1
Dodo Dadabi

If the kind like the approaching mini tank, friendly forces could have some shut off signal. But generally now and more in the future, those autonomous drones get released when you are the front line and pretty sure there isnt any friendlies in front of you. But some farmer, local family anything... Bad luck

10 дней назад
Just Random Things
Just Random Things

@Id OFX8 you are talking from a developed nation point of view. I am ralking from an underdeveloped/developing country's point of view. We have more men comapred to money.

10 дней назад
Id OFX8
Id OFX8

@Jayden Nobody wants to join the woke bullshit, where our leaders are either corrupt or incompetent beyond belief. If I could load an aerial drone with missile batteries capable of sending out semi-autonomous flocks of highly accurate drones instead of risking my life in a foreign land for a general I have no loyalty to, and a military I have no faith in, then the choice is clear.

11 дней назад
Id OFX8 +1
Id OFX8

@Just Random Things That is until you step on a landmine. Then your are paying 50 times the cost of one switchblade just to compensate and treat an injured soldier who will never be whole again. I won’t say I like the direction we are headed, but the long-term costs and effectiveness will make autonomous munitions far more worthwhile.

11 дней назад
Id OFX8 +1
Id OFX8

@Just Random Things When you take the risk of getting shot on the battlefield away, then money no longer becomes a concern. Why risk 100 lives for 100,000, when you can spend 1 million without the fear of death for your men. Soldiers require resources and pay as well. If you take half your men off the battlefield, your are saving far more in a drawn out conflict, than if you were to use real soldiers. I have more than enough concern for the future of man, but I can’t disagree with its efficiency.

11 дней назад
Uqbah Kabir +42
Uqbah Kabir

One of his points were to 'take the burden' off the human by using AI input to determine the target. That doesn't feel right to me, as its quite clearly minimising the weight of the situation- ending other lives. It's a very serious matter and human input is necessary to experience the gravity of the situation. Unfortunately, I'm not satisfied with the way I've been able to articulate by thoughts here.

29 дней назад
Vijaya's Fitness Mantra
Vijaya's Fitness Mantra

same thougths

13 дней назад
Henry Hamilton +2
Henry Hamilton

In a high intensity conflict against a near-peer opponent, I think this is a good thing. Since this would actually save more lives (albeit, lives from your side, at the expense of the enemies', which is what you want, right?). You don't really need any judgement in this case other than identifying it is the enemy, in this case an autonomous weapon that can guide itself or identify its own target would be amazing for your own troops on the ground since they can be more efficient. Or to put it in a different way, would you risk a platoon of say 25 men with their gear and training to ambush a Russian convoy, maybe losing 2-5 guys....or do you send maybe 4-5 autonomous munitions to achieve the same result? In a low intensity conflict against an asymmetrical opponent though, it's a different story and a lot more judgement from a human is needed before taking the shot.

14 дней назад
Dr. Steve Brule +3
Dr. Steve Brule

People had the same feelings when it went from swords to guns. And I still agree. We should fight with swords.

15 дней назад
The Quaalude
The Quaalude

Bring out the terminator

16 дней назад
DOOMULUS +2
DOOMULUS

No human should be killed by a non-human intelligence. We conquered predators so we built our own, even more dangerous, predators (no pun intended).

22 дня назад
Mia Harfe
Mia Harfe

Making the machine decide who to kill and who not to kill takes away the liability and responsibility on humans. It has both advantages and disadvantages. Advantage would be, things will be more convenient. And disadvantage would be when things go terribly wrong, can we make a machine accountable for the mistake? 🤷

14 дней назад
Jk&=[[ +2
Jk&=[[

Before blaming drones over accuracy concerns, think about the other blind armaments and equipments which are used randomly without any target validation. In a drone strike there certainly exists some sort of due diligence. PTSD in that case should also affect pilots of bomber planes and artillery crews .

Месяц назад
THE ARMORY TV +11
THE ARMORY TV

The real value of such drones is the ability to find out what else is in the target area 😍

Месяц назад
S1iznc1d3
S1iznc1d3

U don't even need a drone for that... today's satellites can zoom down to an ant on the ground with details so fine u can see it's hairs.

11 дней назад
Evin Chester +32
Evin Chester

It boils down these issues. 1. Send a drone rather than a person. 2. It's cheaper to use a drone. 3. It's safer to be on the other side of the world than close to the enemy. 4. Politicians can justify using a drone rather than a person. 5. Businesses can make more money using drones. 6. You have to train a human but you can program a drone. 7. As long as the civilians are not being imposed upon, politicians can pretty do as they please. 8. Most important, what is the bottom line?

Месяц назад
Serg Versus
Serg Versus

Drones can be used to control civilians - F great.

24 дня назад
Julian
Julian

you get it, thank you

26 дней назад
Willian Pederiva +2
Willian Pederiva

The bottom line is: If the attack goes across the ocean, the retaliation will be like that too

28 дней назад
Mr VendorX +24
Mr VendorX

Agree with Mr A Guterres: Fully Autonomous Machines are unacceptable - to the moral aspect I will add: anything that has been programmed can be hacked - and more importantly: who will take responsibility for the actions of the rogue drone?

Месяц назад
BlueBoxGaming +2
BlueBoxGaming

@Darth Aragon So it's only heinous if it kills members of the 1st world living in their suburbs? Mines still kill and maim innocent people living in the 3rd world. Children playing in a field, people on their daily commute to work, families out for a walk. Mines do not discriminate and are certainly not acceptable in comparison with Combat Drones.

22 дня назад
Darth Aragon +3
Darth Aragon

@Mathy Don Yes they are different from mines. A mine does not select a target, it does not activley shoot someone. If you would stay at home and do nothing you will not be killed by a mine, but you may very well be killed by an Autonomous drone that mistakes you mowing your lawn for a soldier.

29 дней назад
EkoHater4Life +1
EkoHater4Life

yeah i got a bad feeling about the future of this stuff,people will get carried away and then shits on fire

Месяц назад
Mathy Don +1
Mathy Don

Fully autonomous arms aren’t that different functionally from mines. Some people consider mines immoral but they’re still commonly used

Месяц назад
Rodney Olinger
Rodney Olinger

Served 22 years in the US Army, multiple combat tours. This video is so simplistic it's value is very limited. It gives information about civilian casualties but no prospective. If 300 civilian deaths is a fraction of what occurred in past wars without drones then then drones could be considered much preferable to conventional weapons. And, without a doubt the technology will get better. The video misses an opportunity to quantify the success or failure with information from this war alone. How many causalities of civilians or friendly forces due to artillery or other conventional weapons have happened in the same time? It would have taken 3 seconds to say "There have been 300 civilian casualties due to AI controlled drones and in that same time period x casualties due to conventional weapons". The same holds true for self driving cars. How many accidents occurred for miles driven in that same period in cars driven by people? I have to assume the producers either have an agenda. or just missed the boat. It is good to talk about this issue! But, with knowledge. Question: Are drones more democratic in that they level the playing field for the less powerful nations?

8 дней назад
matt ryan +2
matt ryan

There is an old star treck episode from the original TV series that relates to this. In the episode, two planets are engaged in simulated war with eachother. Computers generate the casualty numbers and people are randomly selected to be killed. This was done to reduce the cost of rebuilding after constant bombardment in modern society.

11 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

Did the crew stop that from continueing?

10 дней назад
L N +465
L N

As a US citizen I am privileged to watch this in the comfort of my home. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be in a war zone and especially with killer drones overhead.

Месяц назад
Batman
Batman

Go fo urself America.

4 дня назад
romeo Gregorio
romeo Gregorio

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19 дней назад
goody ahmed
goody ahmed

America war crimes. ... no one or media talk abouT ???

21 день назад
Streamlabs Support
Streamlabs Support

Hi

21 день назад
Serg Versus +1
Serg Versus

Wait until drone be used to control lockdown😯

24 дня назад
kartoffelwaffel +2
kartoffelwaffel

if you ban "lethal autonomous" systems, does that include mines? if not then where do you draw the distinction? Noting that some mines can even distinguise friend and foe, and some drones can't.

24 дня назад
Evan Murphy +5
Evan Murphy

I am surprised that there aren't more people talking about that drone swarm in the forest! That is incredible and truly horrifying

20 дней назад
Fiercefighter
Fiercefighter

@GodMode its just the sheer number. Imagine all of them coming to self destruct around you.

16 дней назад
GodMode
GodMode

Well it still looked rather dumb and slow. But once they are advanced, yes.. Very frightening.

18 дней назад
Ruth Dilbeck +41
Ruth Dilbeck

Having a human with the finger on a button for a drone or such thing like that is one thing, but autonomous killing is completely unacceptable to me.

Месяц назад
UnicornGamer96 +1
UnicornGamer96

I disagree

11 дней назад
Winston Deleon +3
Winston Deleon

Why is autonomous killing by machines operating according to algorithms and rules written by humans any worse than a human killing other humans while operating according to procedures and rules written by humans? I'm a computer scientist, and I can tell you that the autonomous machines at this point make fewer recognition mistakes than the humans, and the machines never accidentally, or worse intentionally, disregard the rules.

12 дней назад
Alexander
Alexander

@Name They never will, humans can't.

23 дня назад
Name
Name

@Rocky johnson Agreed. At least until the drones are capable of accurately differentiating civilian from a combatant.

25 дней назад
Rocky johnson +1
Rocky johnson

@REVOLVF I think that the drone should see out a target autonomously, however the actual pulling of the trigger and reviewing of the footage should always be put in human hands.

29 дней назад
ozi +1
ozi

i truly believe autonomous cars will save human lives, i'm waiting for the day we wont have taxi drivers on the roads that stop the car on the highway whenever they get a job.

22 дня назад
recep kaymaz +256
recep kaymaz

The KARGU-2 kamikaze drone does not dive into the target unless operator give the final command. It has fully autonomous capability. However, the algoritihm was designed to operate with human in the loop. That’s it.

Месяц назад
recep kaymaz +1
recep kaymaz

@Dodo Dadabi If you are in a war anything can happen. I can’t argue with that. Even if the operator “push the button” for strike, the decision maker could be thousands km away from the site. US drone strikes have killed thousands civilians in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan… and in some cases the decision made regardless of the outcome. Moral values are important not only just utilizing weapons but also for designing them.

9 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

@James Fletcher maybe fully autonomous following of a target, but not fully autonomous target and shoot choice? But i guess turkey delivers what the buyers want

10 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi +1
Dodo Dadabi

@recep kaymaz just that the weapons manufacturer and buyers mostly dont care much about the risk to civilian lives

10 дней назад
Batughan Uzun
Batughan Uzun

@R K DN it was a really amazing shitshow. not just once, twice or even thrice. the community have managed to leak secret documents to the game for five times,just for the sake of correction of a tank in the game to penetrate correctly or have a good armor.

29 дней назад
recep kaymaz +3
recep kaymaz

@Alexander Simply made it. However, it is not used in any conflict autonomously. UN report is unclear and false. As far as I know US, Israel, China have similar capabilities. For example, Israel used the AI controlled stabilized gun station to assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists in recent years. When you develop a technology on AI, sensor fusion and other related technologies, rest depend on how you implement and your needs. Contrary to past applications these technologies can be used civilian areas. So many other countries have already gained enough experience to develop ''killer robots''. Your vacuum cleaner robot can be a killer robot. Your irobot vacuum cleaner has your voice analysis, your house map including where you sleep, enough sensors and open access to internet. Apple has your finger print and retina, amazon has your voice, netflix and youtube has your habits... In military US and Israel leads, Turkey and China closely follow. (That does not mean copying others. There are numerous ways to make it right)

Месяц назад
Kirxas +4
Kirxas

All I see is a way to make wars cheaper(which would ensure even small or poorer nations can protect themselves), strikes more precise (which means less civilian deaths, despite what this video tries to sell) as the alternative is carpet bombing the city or artillery strikes and to need less people to actually be fighting.

13 дней назад
Cptkiller2010 +3
Cptkiller2010

"What happens, when the enemy has the keys" We're in Black Ops 2 times, even has the Hunter-Killer drone

22 дня назад
jackthegamer +9
jackthegamer

we may actually never see any machines replace soldiers in the near future for the fact that, yes it require years to practice a soldiers which wouldn't be the case for a machine, the main issue would be this... why do that when we know that our soldiers aren't going to immediatly betray us if an issue arise like with machines, plus we got to remember, most armies tend to run with what is the most affordable first and than the high-tech stuff WAY after

24 дня назад
Major Mononoke
Major Mononoke

Bullshit, First of Soldiers have often betrayed their gouverments, be it via military pushes or by comitting acts of genocide/ terror without the consent of their gouverment, but the consent of their military(Germany WW1 with their military dictatorship or the spanish civil war, Chile/ argentian military dictatorship, etc). Secondly, the drones literally are the high tech stuff and they are cheaper, there enought producers like Isreal, turkey, etc. willing to sell them and make a profit. They are much more versatile, puts you more far away from the war, which makes easier to engage in combat/ danger. They can engage in many roles and fast as hell and practise war from the distance. Further the fact that you can somewhat controll their behaviour much more than humans via algorithms makes them "perfect soldiers". Did i mentioned, that they dont have complaining families nagging you after they get killed? Also the autonmous decision making of these drones will happen, only by the fact that they will make decision much faster and have a much bigger advantage to the human controled slow drones. Further making them autonomous systems means, that they can work even after the "enemy" blocks the frequence/ connection between drone and homebase.

21 день назад
Dancing dark
Dancing dark

you cannot put high tech and affordable for a comparison , high tech stuff can be made more affordable than low tech stuff, its always supply and demand

22 дня назад
splash +6
splash

Machines won't betray you if you don't program it to betray you. Humans on the other hand are subject to emotions, traumas, etc.

23 дня назад
ProductofNZ +2
ProductofNZ

Can you image an AI-controlled drone swarm...its a scary thought

24 дня назад
marina njer +1325
marina njer

4:10. The US did not mistake the aid worker for a terrorist. The drone operation saw the guy unloading jerrycans of water to his house in the afternoon with children playing around the car and chose to fire without any type of recon. They had no idea who the guy was and made no effort to find out. The worst part is that the children could be seen playing even as the order to kill them was issued. Totally unacceptable

Месяц назад
VGames 1
VGames 1

War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength

День назад
Batman
Batman

US is a Terrorist state and loves to k_ill people who are not white

4 дня назад
Asikur Rahman +1
Asikur Rahman

Imagine someone send a bunch of army's in you country to overwatch and kill every person they want. And called it peace mission. How you'd react?

9 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

@preston drnek i guess so, it is the action part in the "game"

10 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

@Jamie Sparks they had 0 reason to think the people were terrorists. At most enemy combattants because maybe carrying weapons. But extra despicable shooting again at those who came to help

10 дней назад
Take The Trash Out +2
Take The Trash Out

OMG... Killer drones!!!1111 Seriously, these drones are absolutely worth their price.

20 дней назад
TheTribal Kid +72
TheTribal Kid

I work(ed) as a social worker in the Netherlands and I can tell you that drone warfare and airstrikes are a lot more brutal than you think. Amongst the refugees that I helped in the past I've also met a family with a father, daughter and a little boy from Mosul. Their family was in Bazwaia in 2017 while their neighbourhood endured U.S. airstrikes. The daughter told me how her younger sister (13) was killed because a U.S. led airstrike hit the roofside of their house. The impact of the shrapnel caused the girl to be partially beheaded and her legs were missing due too the impact of the wall. They fled later on and stayed in a AZC for a while in North-Holland. Another family that I helped which was a man with 3 little kids once called us because his kids were screaming and crying (it was new year and people set off fireworks). Most of the pictures that were shown to me of civilians that survived drone strike attacks and aerial attacks were some of the most gruesome footages I have ever seen. I really regret seeing some of those because I still have nightmares from some video's. I remember every single detail of those footages.

25 дней назад
Kasper Vestergaard
Kasper Vestergaard

@M K Well if my take is correct, then we won't. The dead cannot think. If you are correct I will burn in hell and you may not.

2 дня назад
M K
M K

@Kasper Vestergaard guess we’ll both find out once we pass away

2 дня назад
Kasper Vestergaard
Kasper Vestergaard

@M K He doesn't exist, don't worry :)

2 дня назад
Владислав Владислав
Владислав Владислав

@Dodo Dadabi iraq attacked Kuwait

10 дней назад
Dodo Dadabi
Dodo Dadabi

@Владислав Владислав second iraq war, there iraq attacked nobody. And first iraq attacked iran, but that made the usa happy

10 дней назад
Nick Konzen +67
Nick Konzen

Saying drone pilots are too disconnected from reality is like saying artillery forces don't see what they fire on and are too disconnected from the impact of their actions aswell

Месяц назад
GodMode
GodMode

@Nick Konzen I never intended to disagree with you

18 дней назад
Nick Konzen +2
Nick Konzen

@GodMode So from what you are saying jet pilots are more detached from reality than drone operators. This basically proves my point more or less. Since what I was trying to say is what people say about drone pilots being too detached from reality is bs.

18 дней назад
GodMode +1
GodMode

@Wandile Dlamini Nope, where did i write that? And are there really more casualties due to drone warfare, wthen there would have been otherwise, with boots on the ground? Nope. War is bad. It should not happen. But drones are not worse than jets bombing, artillery shelling, or soldiers shooting civilians

18 дней назад
GodMode +1
GodMode

​@Nick Konzen If a kid points something that looks like a gun at me im shooting to kill. No chance i risk my life a bit more than absolutely necessary. If i control a drone on the other hand, I am in no immediate danger and thus can take time to look a second time and maybe see its just a twig? Yes drone operator bases are military targets. But they are not targeted by infantrymen. Or tanks etc. They would be targeted by cruise missiles. So no, there is literally no case where the potential target of a drone is also a direct threat to the operators life. Thus he has more time and less stress when deciding to shoot. My last point was: A jet pilot attacks the coordinates he got. Maybe the exact location is only determined by laser guidance. Either way: he doesnt see what he attacks. How is that any better than a drone operator seeing what he attacks?

18 дней назад
Wandile Dlamini
Wandile Dlamini

@GodMode it’s okay you just want to justify the loss of innocent life in the Middle East that casualty of drone strikes

18 дней назад
Nick H
Nick H

All the talk of AI making mistakes seems a little pointless when we consider how many mistakes are made by humans throughout the history of warfare. Entire wars have been started or escalated by "honest" mistakes made by humans and massive damage and death has occurred from things as simple as orders not reaching the troops in time or being misinterpreted. The Charge of the Light Brigade has gone down in history as a romanticized charge to the best and bravest - but it was all a mistake and only happened because the order that were sent to cancel the charge reached the Heavy Cavalry and everyone else but not the Light Brigade.

11 дней назад
Hal Lo +1
Hal Lo

Dear Wahid Nawabi, the Sovjet army in Afghanistan consisted of soldiers from the Ukrainian SSR. Also, the Ukrainian army was part of the NATO-forces in Afghanistan. Anyway, a guy who experienced war and dead as a kid should donate his life for more than war and death or should seek professional help...

28 дней назад
again +2
again

Drones would have saved countless lives in a situation like Black hawk down in Mogodishu Somalia. The hawks and little birds had to much difficulty safely laying down fire-power so close to friendly soldiers. If the value of 1 soldier is $250 000 these drones are cheaper and more expendable.

29 дней назад
Kin Fong Yeung +54
Kin Fong Yeung

I love how the insider said that the topic is more nuisance, and proceeded to simplify the whole situation about drones causing unintentional harms. Like 300 cases caused by autonomous systems, ok, how about you give us some sense about the number by pointing out the number of human-caused accidents in a year? You can't because that won't work with the narrative you want to construct. This video is not about answering a question but justifying your perceived opinion that drone is bad. Insider, you can do better than that.

Месяц назад
BlueBoxGaming +1
BlueBoxGaming

@Alexander Drones have an incredible record compared to other weapons when it comes to civilian casualties. Compared to airstrikes, artillery, rocket attacks, and even putting boots on the ground, drones have proven the value of high precision munitions in warfare. Modern Drones like Switchblade are even programmed with an abort function if innocents enter the killzone during a strike.

21 день назад
FrozenTits_Records
FrozenTits_Records

The US military most CERTIANLY lies about how many civilians they kill and if you don't think so just watch the leaked video from Julian Assange with the helicopter murdering journalist and their children and the soldiers saying "well they shouldn't have brought their children" 🤦‍♂️ that's why they want to kill/lock up Julian Assange becuase he showed the public the TRUTH which the US military would NEVER DO

26 дней назад
Jim Panse
Jim Panse

In the short term its fine as its still a human making the choice. But AIs going rogue will eventually not be a sci-fi scenario anymore.

27 дней назад
Temeria 1 +3
Temeria 1

@Alexander You're making stuff up (again) where did I say they were unintentional deaths? So far you made 3 assumptions, so i'll ask again; -Where did I say it was nothing? -Where did I say we should ignore it? -Where did I say they were unintentional deaths? You need to learn how to read, actually read, not just glance over and make stuff up as you go. War in and of itself is unacceptable, civilian deaths are simply part of war. Just like t0rture, r@pe, executions of pow's etc. What I'm saying is that they are trying to push this narrative that autonomous anything is bad, almost fear mongering. 400 accidents, 300 deaths thats the only thing we heard, how many accidents if someone drives a car? How many civilians killed by non-autonomous things?

29 дней назад
Alexander +2
Alexander

@Temeria 1 Dense?I was being facetious, because the point I made was that whether intentional or not, civilian drone deaths are unacceptable. Which you were obfuscating, intentionally or unintentionally by saying it was only 300 unintentional deaths, as if intentional civilian deaths aren't way higher over our involvements overseas.

29 дней назад
ultrajd +19
ultrajd

“Drone” is the wrong word. A drone is not controlled by any human at any point. From take off to landing back at base. These are UAVs. They have human controllers and human brains making the life and death decisions. They do not make the choice on whether or not they deploy lethal ordinance. A UAV is a tool. No different from an M-16 or AK-74.

Месяц назад
homeland11 +3
homeland11

then who controlled my dji drones? it controlled itself? you're so confusing.

Месяц назад
Cloud District +1
Cloud District

They will never decide on the issue of autonomous or not, as when operating in such a grey area, you are given the perfect escape for any situation by blaming the tech.

29 дней назад
Myonions Matter
Myonions Matter

its such an easy answer, no. accountability should be prioritized when it comes to war

25 дней назад
Steel Rat +12
Steel Rat

As a Ukrainian, I don't see problems in a drone killing all occupants in military uniform beyond a front line. The Switchblade-300 is barely useful against enemies in a body armor (and has a weak radio-jamming resistance), the Switchblade-600 is much better - it can destroy vehicles, at least. In fact, RF is calling for fully autonomous killing drones because they extensively use radio-jamming tools. Unfortunately, we don't have enough neither drones, nor planes, nor artillery, nor tanks to liberate our people fast. Only a third of weapons needed, other is fueled with our blood. putinists are saying "stop war", which would be *a non-defeat pause for RF* to gather forces to strike again. We are willing to win this defensive war.

Месяц назад
Андрей Ивлеев +1
Андрей Ивлеев

не победите) у вас в Киеве улица бендеры. ваша судьба решена. дело времени

17 дней назад
1GunyGun
1GunyGun

@ultrajd ye jjust write in twitter your shit posts. You help Nazi Ukrainian win

17 дней назад
ultrajd +3
ultrajd

Keep fighting the good fight. I wanted to join your international fighters helping you but I suffer from epilepsy. So sadly I can’t fight beside such brave people.

Месяц назад
A Human
A Human

U gonna pay kokhol

Месяц назад
Corrupt Russian
Corrupt Russian

Train the AI to pick targets of value, it must be possible to pick out a machine gunner for example. SO if troops come under fire they can launch upo a couple of switchblades while the rest hold down the fire. Take out targets with the AI, forget the man in the loop.

Месяц назад
you vanced +1
you vanced

I never heard of drones pushing the final kill button themselves, are you guys sure that's a thing?

Месяц назад
aleksander suur +168
aleksander suur

In this question, AI is a moot point. First of all, there is no intelligence in it, it's just a machine. A landmine once laid down is also autonomous and not very selective about who it will kill. A simple bomb once loosed from a plane also falls where it may, it doesn't question whose head it is. Accuracy for a killer robot is same sort of thing, just because it's driven by software not by luck and random chance doesn't make it meaningfully different. Weapons of war sometimes hit the wrong target, or are in fact used carelessly or even completely without regard for rules of war. Outright war crimes are all too common, such is the nature of war, it's a violent sort of business. Arguing about how long a lanyard should be used to trigger the artillery is semantics.

Месяц назад
Cray
Cray

@Rio Fear the A10 incident was an issue of gross negligence and "wanting to get the first kill as a flex"

17 дней назад
kartoffelwaffel
kartoffelwaffel

@jkgambz what if a drone is instructed to target all vehicles within a specific area? How is this different to a minefield? Some mines can even distinguish friend vs foe, some drones can't.

24 дня назад
Rio Fear
Rio Fear

Agreed. Human beings are dumb and often make terrible mistakes. Accidental (or intentional) killing of civilians and friendly soldiers happens all the time. E.g American A-10’s hosing down a couple British vehicles during the Iraq war wounding 5 and killing 1. If anything I’d be more comfortable with a well designed and tested robot deciding if I was friendly or not.

27 дней назад
Malthe Nielsen
Malthe Nielsen

That isn't what autonomous means

29 дней назад
aleksander suur +4
aleksander suur

@Tom Cruz Earliest ballistic missiles ran on clockwork automatons, not so different from a landmine at all. The contol systems became more complex, tube based electronics, discrete transistors, all the way to modern flying computers they are. But they are still automatons, clockwork or silicon, what difference does it make to morals and ethics?

Месяц назад
K.o. Key
K.o. Key

Interesting... Ace Combat predicted the use of autonomous drones and Metal Gear Solid 2 our lack of ability to make good decisions, so we left it at a AI

Месяц назад
Star cab +2
Star cab

"All stealth bombers are upgraded with computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record." Once a movie quote now a reality?

Месяц назад
misutatomasu
misutatomasu

There's not a single UAV that is fully unmanned. This video is made to act in the benefit of our enemies.

Месяц назад
abramo
abramo

i believe the b21 raider is going to remain as a manned aircraft

Месяц назад
The Load +3
The Load

I'm so pumped for autonomous AI drone wars to happen and it would be even cooler if the machines started to turn on us and we get an all out Humanity vs Machine war that can not only bring us all together but also have a really cool and fun futuristic war.

Месяц назад
bonzi buddy
bonzi buddy

"fun"

Месяц назад
Ville Ritola +3
Ville Ritola

More worrying is that it's cruel men giving orders to the machines. Autocratic states will be the first to employ lethal autonomous weapons, indiscriminately.

23 дня назад
Dancing Light
Dancing Light

Autocratic states already employ lethal people, and these people are usually corrupt, they make false accusations and demand bribes, sometimes acting on their own accord for their own ego or benefits, discriminately if you have power / money

22 дня назад
squidweirdo +1
squidweirdo

What autonomous drones are they referring to in particular? The only one I know of is the kamikaze drone and a human has to make the call for the kill.

Месяц назад
zdenek oldrich marek +1
zdenek oldrich marek

In the 1950's I used smoldering string fuses and clocks and clock work mechanisms on my Kiel Kraft Balsa wood and Tissue Glider aircraft kits, The smoldering string held the TAILPLANE flat aganst the top of the fusalage tail and the Tailplane had a strongish elastic which pulled against the fuse string which would smolder away allowing the tail plane to TILT its self upon a hinge attached between the rear fusalage and Tailplane leading edge causeing a tilt upon the tailplane which made the Glider/or soaring aircraft fall back on its rear fusalage slowly ascending to the ground !KIEL KRAFTWERE FANTASTIC KITS, Withoutsleep a Minnimowa sail planecould be finised in a Friday to Monday lunch ready for testing !The CHIEFTEN RUBBER POWERER %^ INCH HIGHWING MONOPLANE IS ANOTHER TOP CLASS KIT>Suitable now forRadio Control.Clockwork did similar force landing to stop it flying away etc. Be Blessed We started Automatic non ai HA HA HA?

Месяц назад
Vegan Pete +1
Vegan Pete

The accepted "collateral" death-toll estimate is slightly higher than "300 civilians" - currently standing at 4 million (a quarter of a million children).

8 дней назад
Rizal Pahlevi +1
Rizal Pahlevi

remember in the past when Elon Musk interviewed, talking about AI, host asking is it possible tesla AI become hostile, or hacker take advantage of it.. and he predict this, saying "making hostile AI is easy, no need for car, just use drone and attach grenade in it, very easy"

27 дней назад
S1iznc1d3 +1
S1iznc1d3

These drones that can shoot or drop bombs might look scary, but wat could even more deadly is a tiny mosquito drone that can inject something deadly as quick as a mosquito can and run. Imagine sending out 1000 tiny mosquitos, quickly killing 1000 soldiers by stinging them in exposed areas, like the neck, face, or hand. The soldiers would b scared shatless cuz they can't defend agains it. Very real technical capability. Jst think about it happening in nature... how many times have u gone outside and been poked by a mosquito so fast, u didn't know u were jabbed 4 times in jst seconds.... only to feel the itch a minute later... by then, u could b ded, never having even fired a single rifle bullet.

11 дней назад
AuthenticUFO +1
AuthenticUFO

6:08 - he should’ve really used the words “to record nature” 😂

Месяц назад
Kyle Shebilske
Kyle Shebilske

The future of autonomous warfare has now arrived and it seems terrifying to me. Like hey It's all good if AI robot's fight other AI robots in future wars instead of having humans fight on the frontline but it will never stop there. Bcause when they are used to kill people it gets scary to think about the future of Modern Warfare!

Месяц назад
Ramprasad A +1
Ramprasad A

Man's cruelty with precise accurate drones are a doom.

Месяц назад
Pratyush Ojha +3
Pratyush Ojha

The real value of such drones is the ability to find out what else is in the target area. Before engaging it's target.

Месяц назад
Mathy Don +4
Mathy Don

9:17 “what if AI fails?” But you just got through explaining how often human driven systems have failed… so what’s the difference? You haven’t presented any info on how AI performed compared to humans. SElf driving cars have made some mistakes but on the whole they actually drive safer than humans when you compare tens of thousands of miles driven.

Месяц назад
I made an account To comment +2
I made an account To comment

This is basically like the irrational fear people have of airplanes when it is way safer than cars.

Месяц назад
Ava Mason +1
Ava Mason

Interesting, technology is gonna rule the world some day or it's ruling if I may say

Месяц назад
Yuri G
Yuri G

Thanks for calling war in Ukraine a war, and not conflict, like @Reuters calls it.

23 дня назад
The Lt +2
The Lt

"What is worse? The cruelty of man or the fallibility of machine?" What a hell of a lie

Месяц назад
MisterRadiator
MisterRadiator

Kamikaze drones existed and I'm just now finding out. This is unfair 😒

Месяц назад
Geoffrey Baumer
Geoffrey Baumer

So how many have been killed by friendly fire in past wars and conflicts? The point of what if A.I. fails is valid and drones have killed in the past, but warfare has never been fair. Is it a good thing that an A.I. device or drones can kill by mistake, no. The fact is people die in war and how many lives can be saved by drones either fully autonomous or not is the key point in using them. I feel drones save lives and will be improved, but war is war and people die. The reality is to fix the issues like this requires greed and other evil human traits to be remedied. Until the politicians who start the wars, typically under the guise of being a patriot of their tribe, become good at their jobs and less caring about their personal/political aspirations, equipment to kill will not only become more advanced, but more lethal. Tribal human traits need to be somehow changed to being a global tribe working together as a whole instead of small groups fighting against each other. With the current political extremes, the divisions have gotten worse and ready to boil over, so don't think that Skynet isn't just around the corner! WE (humanity) are killing the planet and ourselves everyday, so until WE change our current trends, whats does any of the points of this video matter in the grand scheme of things?

10 дней назад
Angel +2
Angel

7:45 a fighter pilot with glasses??? That was the one thing that kept me from ever being in the Air Force or Navy! Wtf

24 дня назад
JM Studios +1
JM Studios

There is no autonomous loitering drones. The switchblade is controlled by humans as well as tb-2 and predator.

Месяц назад
Ron Burgandy +1
Ron Burgandy

What a pity there's so much GOOD information in this video but the producer's go and put the "Russia bad, US good spin on it". *NO MILITARY ACTION IS GOOD* period. But the drone information was excellent 👍

2 дня назад
Jaron Lindow +1
Jaron Lindow

Landmines are a good example of what you get when you remove the human element from target identification. The program is simple and mechanical: If (Weight > X) Then Explode. There is no If (Guy = Bad) Then Explode.

Месяц назад
Lincoln Alexandre +5
Lincoln Alexandre

The drone actually great 👍

Месяц назад
Martin Latvian +14
Martin Latvian

I love the Taiwanese Revolver drone 860. Apearently they did just donate 800 of them to Ukraine. Which is very good for Ukrainian military since Ukrainians appear to be very skilled drone operators and Taiwanese can get real combat testing for their drones. The drone can carry 8 pieces of 60mm mortar rounds. Can't wait to see em in action blasting orcs into pieces.

Месяц назад
9494Ous
9494Ous

Orcs? You mean some random 18 year old on his mandatory military service who unknowingly got sent to go fight his distant cousins?

7 дней назад
AFTECH 72
AFTECH 72

@彼得•伊万诺维奇•巴格拉季昂元帅 your right i bought a phantom 4 pro for $1600 and it indeed is made in china - im impressed with the built and the technology is so advanced - anticollision and GPS tracking and autopilot using the draw and track software waypoints … altitude holding and telemetric screen with headset makes it feel more realistic being in the craft while flying-

28 дней назад
whatever 18262
whatever 18262

It's loud as hell which makes it much less viable. And Chinese drones are better

28 дней назад
彼得•伊万诺维奇•巴格拉季昂元帅 +2
彼得•伊万诺维奇•巴格拉季昂元帅

@AFTECH 72 dji made in shenzhen China

28 дней назад
AFTECH 72
AFTECH 72

@wind Cold aint dji made in taiwan ?

Месяц назад
Akademik Birey +21
Akademik Birey

Drones and loitering munitions are far less probable to cause civilian casualties when compared to conventional artillery or missile systems. They also performed extremely efficiently in Ukraine so far. Claiming that Russia has neutralized the TB2 threat entirely by adapting air defense systems accordingly is wildly inaccurate. Azerbaijan has used not only Israeli-made loitering munitions but also Turkish-made TB2, in fact, according to visually backed sources like @oryxspioenkop majority of the damage was done by TB2 drones. In the entire war, I don't remember a single civilian casualty by drones.

Месяц назад
ZMAJAodSNOŠAJA
ZMAJAodSNOŠAJA

Whats up with the trolling in comments?

4 дня назад
Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

@kachala sure Ukraine might have lost their tb2s or maybe they are not disclosing the operations or maybe they don't want to lose the others. UCAV operating is more like finding narrow opportunity windows to hit the enemy units if you don't have enough number of them. If you have lots of them you can do saturation attacks which is another story. You have to support them with EW units also, like KORAL system and maybe with AWACS also etc.

7 дней назад
kachala
kachala

@Lorem Ipsum yes, but if TB2 we not see, it's mean is hard to find opportunities.

7 дней назад
Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

@kachala true, but there is no perfect air defense. You can always find opportunities

7 дней назад
kachala
kachala

@Lorem Ipsum Drones do not work where there is good air defense. it's all an expensive flying target. in addition to missiles, there is electronic warfare.

8 дней назад
Zeppelin Wilson
Zeppelin Wilson

we may actually never see any machines replace soldiers in the near future for the fact that, yes it require years to practice a soldiers which wouldn't be the case for a machine, the main issue would be this...

13 дней назад
CannedLife
CannedLife

There should always be the human element making the final call and intervention should be possible at any time. Civilization has avoided nuclear disaster, because unlike autonomous weapons, humans do not have to make binary decisions based on binary results.

Месяц назад
Ralph Folden +1
Ralph Folden

I don’t notice you mention the total disregard for civilian life with the Russian methods of attack.

21 день назад
Ramses Rizal
Ramses Rizal

As long it didn't have self awareness we're pretty much safe. The problems occur when drones decided they didn't want self destruct themselves.

29 дней назад
Michiel van Grinsven +1
Michiel van Grinsven

@Ramses Rizal Betrayal is not one error code, that's programmed behavior. Error codes are about missing flow control, not about the genesis of sentience itself.

23 дня назад
Ramses Rizal
Ramses Rizal

@Arthur Wu it didn't need sentience level, one error code that led drones didn't want self destruct themselves instead they chooses to destroy their "masters" that's what scares me the most. I'm far from experts about A.I but the thought of drones turn themselves against humanity is scarry.

24 дня назад
Arthur Wu
Arthur Wu

I do not think AI has achieved sentience yet, and it's hard to attribute human-level sentience to AI since they are just sophisticated mathematical algorithms ensembled (combined) together into a broad network.

24 дня назад
Deriv44
Deriv44

I just hope we don't end up with a real-life Skynet situation with those autonomism drones

Месяц назад
Duffelbag Drag
Duffelbag Drag

@Simon Savard So… you’re bitching about the very same technology that you install every day for a paycheck? 😳

22 дня назад
Simon Savard +1
Simon Savard

How could we not end up there? We are developing autonomous AI, we have virtually no defense against a rogue AI that can act way faster than any human and do millions of operations simultaneously. And we are connecting everything together. Just think of what you see in video games like Watch Dogs or Cyberpunk where you can just go and hack everything up, it will not be fiction for a long time. Institutional clients are installing lights, cameras, door controls, security systems that are all connected on the internet and that are susceptible to hacking. I am a contractor, we install those things every day. More connected bullshit, more vulnerable stuff, all in the name of "ease of use". If we are too lazy to open the curtains ourselves and need internet connected window curtains, maybe we deserve Skynet.

Месяц назад
Juan Blanco +8
Juan Blanco

The farmer with irrigation pipes on his truck or a group cutting rice can be seen as a threat & targeted. No 'war crime' there, unless it's the refueler, programmer or the boss' held responsible.

27 дней назад
GodMode
GodMode

Would it be a war crime if it happens by accident performed by a person? I think not really. War is dirty. Innocent people die.

18 дней назад
Jack F
Jack F

1:50 - if a pidgeon had crashed into the pickup, it would have done more damage!

18 дней назад
jreese46 +23
jreese46

There is no blurred line, no question. Drones allow us to engage an enemy without risking our own. They do that now. There are more than enough people, who can be trained to sit in the comfort and safety of a secure base and engage the enemy without risk. There is absolutely zero need for the machine to make the IFF decision. That can easily, and should only ever, be done by the safe, comfortable, un-risked human being, sitting far away.

Месяц назад
GodMode
GodMode

Ever heard about radio jamming? Russia luckily has not enough equipment to jam the entire front. But as soon as your enemy does it, all your drones are useless. You then can only hope you have an return to base feature thats autonomous. Sure taliban wont have that. But in a war against china? Oh and your operator is also at risk from the radio emissions, which can be detected and used to triangulate his position

18 дней назад
jreese46
jreese46

@Brent Dallyn You absolute detective, you. That's clearly the only reason for not wanting a machine to decide whether or not to attack you without human input. Good job!

19 дней назад
Brent Dallyn
Brent Dallyn

Always wanted to work from home, I wonder?

19 дней назад
Tom Cruz
Tom Cruz

I agree. I think drones are really useful but I will NEVER EVER accept a silicon chip making a life or death decision. There should always be a human on the trigger. Even if humans occasionally make mistakes in target acquisition, I would still prefer them over a silicon chip.

Месяц назад
Thor Lord of thunder +1
Thor Lord of thunder

@buttermeupbro I’m not talking about accuracy, but human error. People have emotions sadness, anger, empathy which all affects judgement. But machine controlled by algorithm is consistent therefore the result is more foreseeable.

Месяц назад
ISubToTheBest
ISubToTheBest

There’s a whole science behind military commercials to make you feel a certain way

14 дней назад
TechOutAdam +7
TechOutAdam

Imagine if we used this tech to find lost people or something.

24 дня назад
GodMode
GodMode

Why not use it before you loose people. To prevent loosing them. Your own soldiers for example?

18 дней назад
BlueBoxGaming +2
BlueBoxGaming

Military technology always seeps into the civilian market. You wouldn't have GPS or the Internet without Military R&D.

22 дня назад
Mike Arsen
Mike Arsen

oh hell nah 💀

22 дня назад
Hamza Malik
Hamza Malik

no money in it lol

23 дня назад
Prince OG
Prince OG

if this develops exponentially then although less people will die, more wars will be likely be fought because of the ease of conflict and lack of moral consequence

19 дней назад
pizzaboy1996
pizzaboy1996

yeah, instead of developing tech for the good of all people, food sustainability and distribution, renewable energy, medical advancement, etc...we build this. because, why not? we know our priorities. I fully understand that there is evil in this world that we need to fight back and push to the corner so it wont bother the majority, I'm just hoping that we are not the ones who feeds the evil or worse the ones that causes the evil.

11 дней назад
Fredrik +69
Fredrik

Drones is so much safer for us civilians than artillery etc. Drones has real-time video. Artillery is just aiming in a general direction. Russia does a lot of it. They also send cruiser/ballistic missiles daily on Ukranian cities with really bad precision.

Месяц назад
kachala
kachala

@Fredrik you another one who think that in Russia no are nothing good. missiles are very accurate and this is problem for the west.

15 дней назад
Fredrik +1
Fredrik

@kachala Assuming you're trolling haha

15 дней назад
kachala
kachala

on the contrary, Russian missiles are very accurate. This is the West and understood.

16 дней назад
babapyro
babapyro

And you know this from your daily dose of cnn right,clowns

29 дней назад
squidweirdo
squidweirdo

@Rodney Agesa ghost of kyiv kills 500 hundred thousand russians per day

Месяц назад
Максимильян Сычёв
Максимильян Сычёв

I will be honest, this technology is awesome. And yes I don't care for what purposes it is used and what accidents it may cause. it is just cool

12 дней назад
Death Hack
Death Hack

7:00 my favourite part :)

24 дня назад
Javier De La Cruz
Javier De La Cruz

So we are programing AI and we act like it’s all good 👍🏼

14 дней назад
Daniele K.
Daniele K.

Train the AI to recognize vehicles that have Z and V on them, should take maximum a week and you are good to go.

26 дней назад
gutsy +28
gutsy

Identification of friend and foe is a huge problem for these Autonomous weapons.

Месяц назад
misutatomasu
misutatomasu

gutsy you have no idea what you are talking about and you are uneducated about the subject. Technologically inept people like you should refrain from making such loud statements from things they have absolutely zero knowledge about. For anyone interested, search for "Challenge–response authentication", "Transponder (aeronautics)" and "Identification friend or foe (IFF)" on wikipedia. Also, there's no drone that makes "Kill" decision without a human identifying the target as a "foe" and giving a sequence of commands, at least in the US military.

Месяц назад
nutsackmania +6
nutsackmania

its a huge problem in war period bro

Месяц назад
Rocky johnson +1
Rocky johnson

Since we know this is the future hopefully anti drone tech is being developed to protect our troops from above etc.

29 дней назад
orc +6
orc

bayraktar tb2 offers perfect balance between lethality and cost. it can mark targets with laser, it can stay on air 24 hours and it can fly under radar (literally) behind the enemy lines.

17 дней назад
Zahid Zabidi
Zahid Zabidi

Why not go fully autonomous once AI tech becomes fully developed In the meantime, drone operators should go through more rigorous training

27 дней назад
Random guy on the internet
Random guy on the internet

dumbass that how we get skynet and terminators

24 дня назад
Prakhar
Prakhar

You know there's a documentary,The Social Dilemma,where the employees of early Facebook Google Instagram YouTube tell how they only created the best possible part of the whole platform, none of them realised how dangerous the whole project or platform is for the people in its entirety, same is something I imagine with modern warfare, all departments are doing their work in innovation,latest tech,quick,silent etc. sectors but how bad it's really gonna be once completed, only time will tell,I just miss the good old sword spear and horses days.

Месяц назад
Winston Deleon
Winston Deleon

In the good old sword spear and horses days, entire cities were burned and civilian populations were massacred in bulk because it was the only effective way of preventing retaliation from defeated states, and soldiers were given free reign to loot anything they could and to forcibly steal any food and supplies they could find from the conquered people because that was the best way to finance and feed an army. Precision drone strikes that most likely leave you spared if you're a civilian are a godsend compared to the guarantee of death and poverty that warfare used to be for everyone in its path.

12 дней назад
pandaland1
pandaland1

The trigger won’t be taken away it will just move further back to the person that gives the first order rather than the pilot.

10 дней назад
Hrithik +1
Hrithik

Well we are making weapons to help AI take over eventually when they'll be capable

29 дней назад
WrenGuitar +1
WrenGuitar

I do contracted software work for military UAVs. They are absolutely essential for ensuring American battlefield dominance and I am so proud of the work we do.

Месяц назад
Rapid Fire
Rapid Fire

You’re proud to participate in murder. You’re a proud serial killer. Congrats

Месяц назад
bar 1
bar 1

"Behind every gunsight is a human being" won't be a thing anymore does it?

Месяц назад
MK Uis
MK Uis

When your enemy hacked your drone reserve warehouse and launch all of them against you...

24 дня назад
LiteStuff LLC
LiteStuff LLC

The entire purpsoe of a drone or similar intelligent missile is to lessen collateral damage. Lots of money is being spent to do this. I don't care to hear about how the minimal collateral damage is too much - what do you want a drone to sniff the air for DNA of the target? Ok maybe next time.

Месяц назад
anon
anon

Insane. Wait till this this stuff is used on you. You will be called a casualty and no one will be held responsible. Cheers.

3 дня назад
The Nerfed Animator
The Nerfed Animator

i miss the days when life was so simple.

Месяц назад
Michiel van Grinsven
Michiel van Grinsven

It's much simpler now. War is bad. Period.

23 дня назад
noah geerdink
noah geerdink

he made it sound like $6000 is a lot for a single-use weapon, but it really isn't.

Месяц назад
Tankart 364
Tankart 364

If anybody here is interested in unmanned tanks, I recommend you to check out the Type-x by Milrem Robotics.

22 дня назад

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